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Topic: getting Hardware Malfunction on win2k
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J.J.
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posted September 16, 2001 18:27
    
I have the same problem in WinXP! Tried sending an e-mail to ABIT, but they won't answear me 
I've tried installing WIN2K, same problems. Starting to think the BX133 is incompatible with win2k/xp.If anyome comes up with a solution, please e-mail me. This is the mail I sent to them: After upgrading from WinME to WinXP (final build 2600), I have got
allot of trouble with the stability of my computer.
My system consist of the following components: -BX133-RAID Motherboard
-Pentium3 FCPGA 700 MHz processor
-2 ea. IBM-DTLA 307030 30 Gb Harddrive, RAID 0, 64K stripe, NTFS
partition
-256 Mb PC133 SDRAM
-ASUS V6800 GeForce DDR graphic card (I have a number of other components, but it's not essential, since
I've tried unplugging all w/o any improvements). Here is a description of my problem:
When I stressing my harddrives, i.e defragmenting or using SiSofts
Sandra 2001te Pro's "drive benchmark", I get the "blue screen of
death" saying "Hardware Malfunction". This happens at the default
speed of the processor (700 MHz). At higher front side bus setting,
the problem get worse; at 133 FSB (933 MHz), the "hardware
malfunction" happens at normal use of my computer. I had no problem running WinMe. Stable as rock at 933 MHz. Only
difference is, in WinXP I'm using NTFS instead of FAT32, and 64K
striping instead of 16K. This is what I've tried to solve the problem:
-Unplugging every PCI card, CD/DVD ROM and external devices.
-Disabled RAID, installed WinXP on each harddrive.
-Setting a lower PIO mode
-Flashed the BIOS with different versions, including one "modified" ZW
mainboard BIOS with the HPT370 1.2.0612 BIOS.
-Uppgraded the original HPT370 1.0.5 windows driver to v1.2.0612.
-Tried different BIOS settings
-Installed IBM's Drive Fitness Test (version 2.10) and stress tested
each harddrive in DOS (no errors reported from the S.M.A.R.T. system) None of the above made any difference, still getting "hardware
malfunction". I also installed HD Tach v2.61 and the result from the test indicates
that something is not right. The graph is very erratic, totally
different from what i got in WinME. I graph was almost straight in
WinME, and the "Random Access Time" around 8,5ms. The "Sequential
Speed" was also much higher, but that could be the difference between
16 and 64 K stripe. I have attached a snapshot of the test to this
mail, so you can see for yourself. Since everything was ok in WinME, could there be a incompatibility
issue with motherbord/harddisk controller/RAID controller and WinXP,
or could there be a faulty motherboard that only shows with WinXP? If you need any more information, please ask, and I'll be happy to
provide it. I can make Sandra Pro generate a report for you, just tell
me what to include in it.
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kmaximus
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posted September 20, 2001 08:49
Alright, this is what I think. I took my system to work and just threw all kinds of hardware at it. The only way I got it stable with a 133 bus CPU was a 866 P3 with bios set to fail-safe defaults. And still about 30percent of the time, it gave me the Hardware Malfunction. After 2 days of testing I think it's defiantly the board that's the problem, and more specificly the High-Point controller. I think there was a batch of bad boards go out and I think Abit needs to address this and handle it accordingly. I have talked to many other people in other forums and in person and they all agree that there is something wrong with the board. [ September 20, 2001: Message edited by: kmaximus ] [ September 20, 2001: Message edited by: kmaximus ]
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Weekender
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posted September 21, 2001 00:00
Same problem here... supplier won't change board if works ok on their test bed  I've e-mailed Abit and asked for a fix, or atleast comfirmation that there is a fault with the board so I can get it changed. Still waitin for a reply... Have clocked me FSB down to 100mHz as someone suggested... thanks for that... its only crashed once since, but I have lost 200mHz P3 800(133) - now a 600(100)
512MB PC133
Matrox G450 Dualhead At 133 FSB got the BSOD everytime I ran Checkdisk... gotta be the IDE/ATA 100... or so it would seem... Help us a-bit-o-kenobe, you're our only hope...
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Weekender
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posted September 21, 2001 20:21
UPDATE!!... Right...Processor back upto 800mHz(133).. HDD back on normal IDE channel... ATA100 enabled in BIOS, but disabled in W2K... and.... anti-hex, anti-hex, seems to be OK  Please let this last!!!
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Ben - UK
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posted October 24, 2001 18:39
Blue screen problems? Me too!When installing Win2K I get blue a screen message, 'hardware failure, please contact your hardware vendor'. I have managed to install W2K successfully once but was continually recieveing this message within 3 minutes following start up. I have not been able to install W2K since. I was also getting problems with Win98 (kept restarting) however a bios flash seems to have fixed this for now. I have been looking for a resolution for some time but to no avail. My system...
(Abit BX133)
Intel Pentuim FSB133 933Mhz
256Mb PC133 RAM
Hercules 3d Prophet II (32Mb)
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Weekender
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posted October 24, 2001 23:32
Have sent the following e-mail to Abit... again you never know.... Hello, Could you please look at the A-Bit tech forum below and please give us some advise.
http://fae.abit.com.tw/eng/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=000022 I have managed to get my sytem running stabily with FSB down to 100mHz and ATA 100 disabled in WIN2K. P3 800(133) - now a 600(100)
512MB PC133
Matrox G450 Dualhead However, as I have (or my company has) paid for a 800mHz P3 and and ATA100 drive, it would be nice to be able to use them :-) At 133 FSB got the 'Hardware Malfunction' BSOD everytime I ran Checkdisk... Thanks & Best Regards
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ND
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posted October 29, 2001 12:09
well, for all the people that have problems with this mobo, I confirmed that there was a defect in some component of the motherboard (not necesary the hpt chip, i think it's some bad capasitor)
definitely there are some bad batch of bx133's floating aroundin the shop where I bought it, I changed for another (exactly same model) for about 3 times !! and the time number 4 I get one that works flawlesly the test that I used for check if I deal with a bad one is SisoftSandra HD benchmark, with all the cpu/memory speeds at normal values, using normal udma33 controler. hope that this help to everyone, if you want to ask me some question : [email protected]
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MiG
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posted November 09, 2001 18:38
Thx guys,you saved me a lot of time and money  I was about to buy myself a new Promise Ultra100 Card, because of that "hardware
malfunction" thing. Although my prob is slightly different, because I don´t use the onboard-raid (Ultra100 instead). I have two bx-133 both running well untill I try to copy something over the local LAN with win2k.
Win2k to w98 LAN copy = works (svf-checked)
win2k to win2k LAN copy = "hardware
malfunction" Perhaps I got a bad mobo too?
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MiG
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posted November 09, 2001 20:21
Forgot my system-specs:- CPU Intel 850E (100Mhz FSB)
- 3 x 128Mb PC133 infineon CL2
- SBLive! Value (Slot5/IRQ 11+IRQ7)
- Realtek 8139B 100Mbps (LAN/Slot4/IRQ 10)
- Realtek 8019 10Mbps (DSL/ISA/IRQ 5)
- Voodoo5 5500 AGP (IRQ 3) - Promise Ultra100 IDE Controler (Slot3/IRQ 15)
- Seagate ST380012A 80GB UDMA100
- Seagate ST313640A 13GB UDMA33
- IBM DTLA 351680 16GB UDMA33
(HD´s on Ultra100 on Slot3, HPT disabled) - Plextor PX-W1210A
- Creative Labs 12x DVD IDE
(CD/CD-RW on IDE1, IDE2 disabled - 300W Power Supply I have an (almost) identical spec´ed 2nd Comp without any probs. Wired thing...
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Molardistalizer
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posted November 10, 2001 00:12
Again, I have four of these boards three work correctly, the board that I purchased last year does not work correctly. The bios is different, I even flashed the bios and it still would not load Win 2k. Boot up computer hold delete to into Cmos setup. Go down to advance chipset settings. If your bios reads sdram ras to cas in the first line and sdram precharge time in the second line,sdram cas latency time in the third and sdram precharge on the forth then you have the newer board if it does not say this then you have the older board. Try to flash upgrade the bios but be dam sure that you know what the hell your doing but installing correct bios; can save your previous setting on floppy and reinstall it. If you screw up its over, donate board to goodwill. It appears that chipset is not supported in Win 2k or XP for that particlar Bios setting. If that does not work, which I do not think it will, you have to fork out another $125.00 beans to get the new board. I am running XP on all of the three boards and they are stable. Bought K-7 Raid mother board and I am happy with the Athlon, 1.4 G it smokes the P-4 1.5 and 1.7 in Sandra Benchmarking but that's another story. If you got the money stop wasting time trying to install Win 2k on that board just visit Monarchcomputer.com and buy board they are really good and will test board before they ship it. Let me know if I can help again, thanks alot and happy hunting!!!!!!!
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Molardistalizer
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posted November 10, 2001 00:46
Last thing, if you guys are upgrading to win2k from windows 98 and you of course have correct bios, it may be easier to remove all of your cards from the computer. For obvious reasons you must keep the viedo card. Then when win2k is installed you can add cards one by one. This will allow you to access any hardware incompatiability issues. Trust me they can keep win2k from completing setup! If your doing a clean install then it is real easy if you are upgrading boot up to safe mode then go to device manager and remove cards, modem, nic, sound and other cards. Then power down, then remove cards and boot back up into windows. Check the device manager to see if the components are still there. If devices are still there then delete them again and power down and then back up again. This will clean the Plug and Play directory of all the devices on your computer. Once you install win 2k, then add the components one by one. this should save time and allow you to identifiy a device that is not compatible with 2K or XP. This is just a suggestion and it may or maynot save you time and fustration. Take care.[ November 10, 2001: Message edited by: Molardistalizer ]
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radar
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posted December 12, 2001 03:05
I upgraded my system from Win98 to Win2K Pro and I was getting a blue screens saying all kinds of errors from "Hardware Malfunction", “Unreadable registry” and other assorted errors. The “Blue Screens” occurred all the time with out warning. Nothing was consisted yet the problem persists.I tried all possible combinations of Cards, Memory, CPUs, H.D.s, etc. and the problems again persist. My system with the exception of the RAID is standard system. It is not overclocked or anything likes that. The system Information is as follows: - BX133-RAID Motherboard + Intel Pentium3 FCPGA 733MHz Processor.
- 3 128Mb SDRAM PC100 memory from Crucial for a total of 384Mb.
- 2 Western Digital Caviar WD40BB 40Gb ATA 100 9ms RAID 1 (mirrored).
- Samsung CD-ROM SC-148F.
- BIOS: 05/02/2001-I440BX-W977-6A69KA1CC-ZW
- HPT370 UDMA/ATA100 RAID Controller BIOS V 1.0.3b1
- HPT370 UDMA/ATA100 RAID Controller Driver 1.0.174.30880 Hard drives configuration: IDE 3 Primary Mirror-1 UDMA 5 39084 MB Boot
IDE 3 Secondary none
IDE 4 Primary Mirror-1 UDMA 5 39084 MB Hidden
IDE 4 Secondary none I upgraded the RAID controller to HPT370 UDMA/ATA100 RAID Controller Driver 2.0.919.0 from the HighPoint website. It looks like that the problem was resolved. Note that you have to HighPoint RCM device manually after you updated the controller driver.
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