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bob d
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posted October 22, 2001 04:43

How much performance would i gain by changing from a 800 (100mhz)celeron to a PIII850 cpu.I preversly upgraded from a PIII450 to the 800 celeron with little performance gain.(I'm running 512 megs of ram,32 meg vidieo card,sound blaster live.)The change to the 800 was flawless with the th bios update,and some changes to the bios.

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Dark Shadow
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posted October 22, 2001 13:40

i wouldn't buy a pIII 850 if you already have a celeron 800. if you really want more performance, try overclocking the celeron (may work up to 1050mhz depending on your system and stepping). the celeron is only a bit slower than the pIII.
i think you wouldn't have a great performance increase if your processor has 50mhz+. and consider it would be rather expensive, too.

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jonny
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posted October 22, 2001 19:32

LOL
Celeron sucks a lot.
Plz do not compare a celeron to a PIII. Celeron performace compared to a duron for example is clearly overtaken by duron.
A duron 800 has almoust the same performance as a coppermine 700. ALMOUST.
Celery is a nice processor but for certain applications. Word, excel etc.
If you have the chance to change for a PIII 850 do it then. Games and other 3d apps will appreciate it.

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scimo
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posted October 24, 2001 04:33

I don't think the celeron is as bad as u think. I play sports similations at 1280*1024 with my celey 533 ov to 800 & geforce2 32mb without any problem. In most situations a celeron 800 should equal to the performance of p3 600-650. Unless you are a serious 3d gamer or you need to run cpu intensive aplication, I think the cel 800 is plenty. Save your money or upgrade your video card :-)

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operafreddy
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posted November 01, 2001 03:51

My Celey 566 is clocked to 850mhz and it blows all the P3s at my job (866-966mhz)!

I run lots of audio and video apps and it works quite well.

It's the price that keeps this chip in good shape so why would one upgrade to 50 or 100mhz more?

operafreddy's pc spec:
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BE6-II version 2.0 [xk bios]
Celeron II 566 @ 850mhz
256mb PC100 SDRAM
two 20gig Seagate 7200rpm HDs at 0 Raid
Removable 7gig WDC HD
ATI Rage 128 32mb AGP
Aopen 744 Audio Card
Smart & Friendly CDRW
Encore 2X DVD w/ Decoder
Linksys NIC
Antec 300watt P.S.
Supermicro Server Tower

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jonny
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posted November 01, 2001 19:54

LOL
Equals a PIII 866-966mhz?????

Maybe if you start considering some benchmarks youll see that what your saying is bulls*#!t. The performance of a pIII 866 coppermine does not sink if you use high resolutions and detailed graphics. Celery is good if you play at low resolutions but benchmarks with numbers is where you see that the performance of a celery is not as good as a pentium III. Just compare Celery 600 with a Duron...It's totally owned by Duron and a Duron 600 in a good motherboard is equal as a pIII 600 coppermine in a BX board.
See all the benchmarks that you want in Toms hardware guide and in firingsquad.com and youll see what im talking about.
Yes do buy celery to play @ 800x600 with good framerate. Otherwise buy PIII.
Make no mistake...benchamark is what it counts not if a guy or another says that is quiete playable or something like that...
(See URL below)

Duron 600 vs PIII 600 vs Celery 600

[ November 01, 2001: Message edited by: jonny ]

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dannyai
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posted November 01, 2001 21:20

Hello

Hey i reckon the Celeron sucks!!!!!!!
Its only good because its cheap.

Its performance against a p3 is -300mhz...
I have a Celeron 1287mhz....and it just performs like my other p3 1000.
And still 3d games are so much slower!..

As u said p3 450 to cele 800 no much gain
or course...800-300 = 500......
well the celeron 800 should still be much faster than the p3 450 .....in most apps.

"My Celey 566 is clocked to 850mhz and it blows all the P3s at my job (866-966mhz)!"

Blows the P3 i think NOT!
try getting over 130fps on Quake3 with the celeron!!!...never!!!! not even my 1287mhz celeron can do that!!! Well it looks like u aint playing no games.

Somehow theres a bottleneck in the celeron which holds maximum fps on quake3 to be like 130fps....on any mhz celeron. however important of course price is where it counts most!

However the Tualatin Celeron is really good for money and overclocking..except need new motherboard! =( doh!

By the way i get like 2200 3dmark 2001 scores on my system. what do u's get?

well i have an mx which kinda sucks too...
well everything sucks when u aint got no money!

Well all celerons are good for is office apps...and 2d apps.....and not games!!!
My celeron is quite smoother than the p3 1000 but when it comes to games...the p3 kills my comp into pieces.
(and this is when i have overclocked already!)

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jonny
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posted November 01, 2001 21:27

Bravo dannyai.
Hear what experienced celeron users have to say bob d then youll buy the PIII 850.

[ November 01, 2001: Message edited by: jonny ]

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Dark Shadow
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posted November 02, 2001 06:27

and i would still recommend celeron (i'm quite satisfied with games and can play at 1024x768 without any problem).

or you just buy a new p4 (which i don't like, though) or an athlon. of course, you have to buy a new motherboard, too. don't think about buying a p3 anymore, it just got too expensive.

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muddocktor
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posted November 06, 2001 09:04

Intel has also come out with a new cD0 stepping flip chip 1000E(100 fsb) that should run fine on a BE6 board. I run 1 up to 1330 mhz on my old BH6 but was having problems because of the lack of a 1/4 pci divider. They are not too expensive, I got mine for about $145. I'm planning to put it in a Soyo board that I'm getting next month, can't find any BE6-ll boards new any more. You can also buy the slot1 P3 1000E proc and use it on your BE6, but they cost more than the flip chip 1000E procs. That is what I'm going to keep on my BH6 box.

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Primary box:
KG7-R, 1.2 AVIA @ 1.35, 150 fsb, 512 MB Corsair reg DDR, 3D Prophet2 GTS 64 @ 215/410
2-IBM 307030 in RAID 0, Adaptec 19160 SCSI, Plextor UW reader, Plextor SCSI 12X burner, Seagate TR4 SCSI tape
backup Pioneer 16X DVD, Creative Ensonic sound card(for now, Enermax 651 psu
Secondary Box:
BH6 rev. 1.0x, slot1 P3 1000/100 fsb cC0 stepping @ 112 fsb
IBM DTTA 14.4 gig HD, Adaptec 1505 SCSi card, Panasonic 4X cd burner
ATI Radeon LE flashed to DDR, Pioneer 16X DVD, Soundblaster Live MP3, Powmax 400 watt psu

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